Architecture Chat #41
Last architecture chat was a fairly small turnout, and as such we ended up having a fairly focused conversation mostly around NHibernate, here's what we talked about on the day:
- The rise of interest in NHibernate recently.
- The NHibernate 3rd party tooling market and side projects.
- NHibernate Profiler.
- NHibernate Search, NHibernate Burrow etc. in NHibernate Contrib.
- Fluent NHibernate.
- Linq for NHibernate and just how complete it is...
- NHibernate Query Generator.
- What tooling / projects for NHibernate could increase developer velocity.
- NHibernate discussion around a number of points:
- Single table / class table inheritance.
- Can you mix both the types of inheritance together.
- Can a discriminator cross multiple columns.
- Discriminator mapping over a range i.e. CreatedDate < 2003, instantiate="" a="" goldcustomer,="" otherwise="" if="" createddate ="">= 2003 instantiate a premium custom (change in customer structuring post 2003). 2003,>
- Ability to support stored procedures in NHibernate where parameters are not in the expected order, or if multiple stored proc calls are required to persist an entity and possible work-arounds.
- Custom column types, limitations etc.
- General ORM questions
- Does the ORM with the best tooling with out long-term for .Net?
- Obfuscation and License Products.
- Why is it such a problematic space...
- The issues people have.
- The pain of rolling your own.
- References to the post from Ayende on his problems with XHEO.
- Refund policies of software product companies (especially components/libraries for developers).
- Why companies get stubborn about refunds.
- Just how many refund requests companies get (consensus - not that many).
- The associated cost of bad service with considering reactions being represented in public (blogs, twitter etc.).
- The point at which most companies should offer a refund, and should they offer it before the customer asks ex. if they can not resolve their issues in a timely manor (or at all) before eroding the money earned from the sale in the first place.
- Factor - briefly talked about it before we finished up, I think I'm going to give up trying to get other people interested in it :) postfix notation and stacks just seems to conjure up thoughts of assembler in most developers minds.
Next chat is this Thursday, 26th of February at 11:30am.
Written on February 23, 2009